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Initiative Initiative

Rogue · Subtlety · Row 3 of 7 · 3 ranks
Changed from Classic

Initiative sits in row 3 of the Rogue Subtlety tree. It has 3 ranks, costing one point each.

Changed from Classic. Check the rank effects below before reusing a Classic build.

What each rank of Initiative does

Each point buys one rank. Compare the effects below to decide how many points to spend.

  1. Rank 1: Gives you a 33% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
  2. Rank 2: Gives you a 67% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
  3. Rank 3: Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

How to reach it

Row 3 opens after you spend 10 points in the earlier Subtlety rows. Level 20 is the earliest you can pick up Initiative.

Is Initiative worth the points?

Compare the benefit of another rank with your other talent choices. Take the final rank when it supports your build. You can leave it partially ranked if you do not need the final effect or its dependent talents.

Starter Rogue builds that use this talent

These starter builds already put points into Initiative. Open one to see the full allocation:

Try Initiative in the Rogue calculator

FAQ

How many points does Initiative cost?

Up to 3 points, one per rank. You can stop at any rank.

Which row is Initiative in, and how do I open that row?

Row 3 of the Subtlety tree. Spend 10 points in the rows above to open it. Level 20 is the earliest you can take it.

Did Initiative change from Classic?

Yes. Its effect or rank wording is different in Forever, so read the ranks above before spending points.

Check more Subtlety talents

More talents in the Subtlety tree: